BNP stand in every Essex County Council ward (From Brentwood Weekly News)

Gideon Smythe wrote:
If the BNP has pro-British, anti immigration policy. How come most of their representatives are Anglo-Saxons? This is the lot that came over from Europe over the last 1,000 years, took our homes, land and jobs, married our women, imposed their language and religious beliefs on us and now act like they own the place.

Us geninue Brits (the Celts) were mainly forced to the western margins of the UK and are made to feel like foreigners in our own country.

Now they are trying to claim these islands as their own. What hypocracy.

The Rooster wrote:
The BNP are the insanity. They stand for intolerance and hatred. They must NOT be allowed to win any seats.

The Rooster wrote:
The BNP are the insanity. They stand for intolerance and hatred. They must NOT be allowed to win any seats.

Winston Smith wrote:

The Rooster wrote: The BNP are the insanity. They stand for intolerance and hatred. They must NOT be allowed to win any seats.

We live in a democracy. To say 'must not' in regard to any political party, no matter how repellent you find their beliefs, is equally 'intolerant'. If we permitted such censorship we could no longer lay claim to living in a 'democracy'.

SaraJess wrote:
Ok, the country is in a pretty way - granted. Allow the BNP to take control and then watch hatred, racism and extremism destroy us even more. No thank you.

silly things wrote:

Winston Smith wrote:

The Rooster wrote: The BNP are the insanity. They stand for intolerance and hatred. They must NOT be allowed to win any seats.

We live in a democracy. To say 'must not' in regard to any political party, no matter how repellent you find their beliefs, is equally 'intolerant'. If we permitted such censorship we could no longer lay claim to living in a 'democracy'.

Winston, if you opened your eyes, you would realise we dont live in a real democracy anyway!

I know who i will be voting for and i will not be telling people across an internet site who that will be. I could make a number of comments about the comments on this article, but im not going to act up and argue it one way or another to people who don't really need to know who others are going to vote for.

N Dawn wrote:
Thats Nice. As has it ought to be in a true Democracy Freedom to vote for whom one so thinks is the better party

bertie bert wrote:
The Rooster, Highwoods. SaraJess, Canvey Here are a few FACTS for your lies. Within the BNP there are homosexual and lesbian members, some of whom are candidates in the coming elections ! It may surprise some people that the BNP have members of polish,Italian, hungarian decent, gay, disabled, jewish, and many members have foreign wives/husbands etc. The BNP have Jewish councillors, a Jewish treasurer. BNP also have Members of the Armed forces, ex WW2 veterans, ex spitfire pilots, pensioners. Unemployed, Self employed and professional people ! Adam Walker BNP teacher has a Japanese wife, Richard Barnbrook (BNP GLA member) his partner Simone Clarke (BNP member)are bringing up Simones mixed race young child. Regarding the usual ‘racist’ accusations – the most seriously injured BNP activist attacked with a claw hammer, turns out to have a Chinese wife; one of the two BNP officers in Wigan turns out to have been married 24 years to an Asian woman, and has a mixed race child (well, she’s 20 now). Democracy=the will of the people, the opposite is dictatorship.

bertie bert wrote:
The Rooster, Highwoods. SaraJess, Canvey Here are a few FACTS for your lies. Within the BNP there are homosexual and lesbian members, some of whom are candidates in the coming elections ! It may surprise some people that the BNP have members of polish,Italian, hungarian decent, gay, disabled, jewish, and many members have foreign wives/husbands etc. The BNP have Jewish councillors, a Jewish treasurer. BNP also have Members of the Armed forces, ex WW2 veterans, ex spitfire pilots, pensioners. Unemployed, Self employed and professional people ! Adam Walker BNP teacher has a Japanese wife, Richard Barnbrook (BNP GLA member) his partner Simone Clarke (BNP member)are bringing up Simones mixed race young child. Regarding the usual ‘racist’ accusations – the most seriously injured BNP activist attacked with a claw hammer, turns out to have a Chinese wife; one of the two BNP officers in Wigan turns out to have been married 24 years to an Asian woman, and has a mixed race child (well, she’s 20 now). Democracy=the will of the people, the opposite is dictatorship.

Sidney Harbour-Bridge wrote:
Anyone thinking of voting BNP needs to be aware that your name will be recorded on some datbase somewhere. If anyone thinks their vote is private and between them and the ballot paper just realise that the small number on the ballot paper that the official records against your name will be held against you, either as a perceived racist or terrorist threat, or even both.

Julian Ware-Lane wrote:
What is disturbing is that the Echo website is carrying a 'vote BNP' advertisement. The BNP have a right to stand, but I would have hoped that this paper would not have promoted them.

Whatawaster wrote:
I'll be voting BNP.

What is so wrong about putting the indigenous people of this great nation above scroungers coming over here on the take?

What is so wrong with wanting to pull our troops out of Afganistan so no more of our soldiers are needlessly maimed and killed?

What is so wrong with wanting to clear our Parliament of the money grabbing swine we have at the moment, who put themselves first and country second?

I could go on.........

PATRIOT-DAVE wrote:
Cllr Dave Harris is another who is scared of losing his seat and all the cushy benefits that go along with it,,,,,,,,, count your days Dave

typhoon32 wrote:

Whatawaster wrote:
I'll be voting BNP.

What is so wrong about putting the indigenous people of this great nation above scroungers coming over here on the take?

What is so wrong with wanting to pull our troops out of Afganistan so no more of our soldiers are needlessly maimed and killed?

What is so wrong with wanting to clear our Parliament of the money grabbing swine we have at the moment, who put themselves first and country second?

I could go on.........

My friend don't.
They are the bred that wanted to destroy Great Britain, we can't let them, I plead with you all, don't support please, for the love of your country and for the love of peace.
They will only make war.

undertaker wrote:
The great man winston churchill once said that the next fascists we will have to overcome will be the antifascists,and how right he was.
Its not about being any other colour than white, its about being a second class citizen in your own country,and the people to blame are the people who have allowed this to happen over the last thirty years, ie all the governments who have been in power.
There are all sorts of black and asian associations but no white ones as that would be rascist.
We let into this country a plane load of hijackers people who hate us and want our blood and want to impose their religion on us yet we dont allow the ghurkas who have given blood for this country thats absolute madness .
If all those people on here take time to read the bnp website they will see for themselves that there is a group posting supporting the ghurkas on there , hardly rascist is it.Also take time to go onto the group postings and yopu will see that a lot of postings on there are actually from black people who are members .So all you people who believe the media lies about the bnp just take time to go and have a look for yourselves.
The reason i vote for the bnp is i dont like to see my taxes being given to everyone who decides to freeload into this country for handouts and not put nothing back.If these immigrants were genuine they would claim asylum in the first safe country they come across, not travel through 20 or so countries to get here,its well known around the world that you get what ever you want in this country on the welfare state so its hardly suprising we get every tom dick and abdul wanting to come here.There are other reasons i vote bnp but i think ive made my point.

Dave_smith79 wrote:
I wonder what the BNP's policies are on Ghurka's seeking residents here? Not to mention decendants from other nationalities that put their own life on the line to fight for Britain. What will happen to the health service, considering most Doctors are not anglo-saxon. What would happen to our athletics and other sports teams? Unfortunately like others have said, the main party's have ignored the public the BNP know what to say. How long does ancestry have to go back to prove you are British?

typhoon32 wrote:
Do not believe the BNP's lies, I implore you. An explanation from the BNP why my great grandad was beaten up for standing up against them during the war, stating that they beat him up because he stood up against there racism would be good.

Ricayboy wrote:
Being a patriot is more about flying the flag. It's about a political system (that most civilized countries employ) that allows native people of a nation to maintain and build their culture within their own national boundaries. And which of the main parties practice this? Fine to be a patriot and not vote BNP, but do you really think the CON LAB LIB trio are patriotic? Maybe you don't vote at all.

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
Do not believe the BNP's lies, I implore you. An explanation from the BNP why my great grandad was beaten up for standing up against them during the war, stating that they beat him up because he stood up against there racism would be good.

Which war, which lies?

I was unaware the BNP have fought any war since formation?

Not lying are you?

typhoon32 wrote:
We do live in Democracy if we didn't the BNP lot would all be arrested and shot more than likely.

Ricayboy wrote:
Is the country not currently in a horrible mess? Hatred is not the way. Positive pride and patriotism is!

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
We do live in Democracy if we didn't the BNP lot would all be arrested and shot more than likely.

And you consider the BNP to be intolerant.

You sound like a Fascist to me.

typhoon32 wrote:
More cover, you can lie all you like, you will and shall do the same thing if people believe you. But they won't because they will realize you all say things which are too good to be true. I'm an anti-racist patriot fly the flag with pride etc etc and I will not vote for the BNP.You can fly your flag now, funny I don't see anybody with british flags up and yet you all claim to be patriots?????????

typhoon32 wrote:

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: Do not believe the BNP's lies, I implore you. An explanation from the BNP why my great grandad was beaten up for standing up against them during the war, stating that they beat him up because he stood up against there racism would be good.

Which war, which lies? I was unaware the BNP have fought any war since formation? Not lying are you?

World war two, what other war, the BNP are fascists same as the Nazis were. I'm not lying you are being unavoidable, to fact the fact that the BNP beat up an innocent member of the public during the war for standing against them

typhoon32 wrote:

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
Do not believe the BNP's lies, I implore you. An explanation from the BNP why my great grandad was beaten up for standing up against them during the war, stating that they beat him up because he stood up against there racism would be good.

Which war, which lies?

I was unaware the BNP have fought any war since formation?

Not lying are you?

World war two, what other war, the BNP are fascists same as the Nazis were. I'm not lying you are being unavoidable, to fact the fact that the BNP beat up an innocent member of the public during the war for standing against them

typhoon32 wrote:
Alright i'll calm down, It's just it gets my blood boiling a bit, my great grandad was beat up for just standing up against facisim, and protecting the Jews.

typhoon32 wrote:

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: We do live in Democracy if we didn't the BNP lot would all be arrested and shot more than likely.

And you consider the BNP to be intolerant. You sound like a Fascist to me.

Oh your trying to persuade me now are you? FAIL FAIL FAIL. I'm not a fascist the BNP are and the fact you argue about it proves the BNP is? British Public 1 BNP 0

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: We do live in Democracy if we didn't the BNP lot would all be arrested and shot more than likely.

And you consider the BNP to be intolerant. You sound like a Fascist to me.

Oh your trying to persuade me now are you? FAIL FAIL FAIL. I'm not a fascist the BNP are and the fact you argue about it proves the BNP is? British Public 1 BNP 0

It is you seeking to persuade others with your continued ignorance.

The rest of the British/Essex Public have just been given a democratic choice.

And I am sure you accept the democratic process, just as I do.

typhoon32 wrote:
Alright i'll calm down, It's just it gets my blood boiling a bit, my great grandad was beat up for just standing up against facisim, and protecting the Jews.

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
Alright i'll calm down, It's just it gets my blood boiling a bit, my great grandad was beat up for just standing up against facisim, and protecting the Jews.

Perhaps you heroic Great Grandfather helped protect the relatives of the BNP Jewish elected councillors and party officials.

typhoon32 wrote:
London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

typhoon32 wrote:
London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

typhoon32 wrote:
London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

Ian Gilbert wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

And of course Nick Griffin still propagates the same old anti-Jewish propaganda that brought Hitler to power in Germany.

As recently as 1997 he was writing pamphlets about how a Jewish conspiracy was controlling the media.

The BNP are opportunists who will latch on to every grievence, but you have to keep in mind where they are coming from.

typhoon32 wrote:

Ian Gilbert wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

And of course Nick Griffin still propagates the same old anti-Jewish propaganda that brought Hitler to power in Germany. As recently as 1997 he was writing pamphlets about how a Jewish conspiracy was controlling the media. The BNP are opportunists who will latch on to every grievence, but you have to keep in mind where they are coming from.

Thank you Ian, I will bear it In mind. To the others who keep calling names.. I said I wish to discuss it no further. Now leave me in peace please, and show how respectable you can be. Thank you

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:

Ian Gilbert wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

And of course Nick Griffin still propagates the same old anti-Jewish propaganda that brought Hitler to power in Germany. As recently as 1997 he was writing pamphlets about how a Jewish conspiracy was controlling the media. The BNP are opportunists who will latch on to every grievence, but you have to keep in mind where they are coming from.

Thank you Ian, I will bear it In mind. To the others who keep calling names.. I said I wish to discuss it no further. Now leave me in peace please, and show how respectable you can be. Thank you

As recent as 1997?

Griffin wasn't even party chairman then.

Off you go and consider it typhoon.

Have a great weekend.

ps...well dome Councillor Emma Colgate and all the fine BNP candidates and activists in Essex.

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: Do not believe the BNP's lies, I implore you. An explanation from the BNP why my great grandad was beaten up for standing up against them during the war, stating that they beat him up because he stood up against there racism would be good.

Which war, which lies? I was unaware the BNP have fought any war since formation? Not lying are you?

World war two, what other war, the BNP are fascists same as the Nazis were. I'm not lying you are being unavoidable, to fact the fact that the BNP beat up an innocent member of the public during the war for standing against them

What a ridiculous person you are.

You even have no understanding of the distinct ideological differences between 'Nazism' and 'Fascism'.

The BNP did not exist during WW2 so stop being silly, or do I also blame my German friend for bombing out my Nan during the blitz.

Ian Gilbert wrote:

Stop the UAF wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:

Ian Gilbert wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

And of course Nick Griffin still propagates the same old anti-Jewish propaganda that brought Hitler to power in Germany. As recently as 1997 he was writing pamphlets about how a Jewish conspiracy was controlling the media. The BNP are opportunists who will latch on to every grievence, but you have to keep in mind where they are coming from.

Thank you Ian, I will bear it In mind. To the others who keep calling names.. I said I wish to discuss it no further. Now leave me in peace please, and show how respectable you can be. Thank you

As recent as 1997? Griffin wasn't even party chairman then. Off you go and consider it typhoon. Have a great weekend. ps...well dome Councillor Emma Colgate and all the fine BNP candidates and activists in Essex.

So that means the BNP appointed him as party chairman knowing full well that he was a holocaust-denier who wrote anti-Jewish propaganda? That doesn't exactly make a strong case for the BNP being a normal respectable party...

Stop the UAF wrote:
The BUF were the BUF. The NF are the NF, the BNP are the BNP.

Any BUF alive must be knocking on 100.

Nothing to fear from them.

typhoon32 wrote:
Do not believe the BNP's lies, I implore you. An explanation from the BNP why my great grandad was beaten up for standing up against them during the war, stating that they beat him up because he stood up against there racism would be good.

Winston Smith wrote:

Stop the UAF wrote: The BUF were the BUF. The NF are the NF, the BNP are the BNP. Any BUF alive must be knocking on 100. Nothing to fear from them.

From the British Union Of Fascists was born the British national Party, from them was born the English National Association.

typhoon32 wrote:
London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

Rocky wrote:
Clearly this has hit a nerve, for whatever reason. I'm just pleased that we do have the freedom to vote for whomever we choose. I hope all that can vote will - BUT please read every manifesto then decide.

trell wrote:
Here we go again... the merest whiff of a BNP-related story, and Colleen G comes out with a whole load of bulls41t about how wonderful the BNP is going to be...

...meanwhile, the rest of the poor, deluded pro-BNP mob keep trying to persuade anyone with a modicum of decency, common sense, and consideration for their friends & family, that the BNP are the ONLY alternative because the Tories & Nu-Labour were rubbish.

Yes, the Tories & Nu-Labour are rubbish, but the BNP as the only alternative? ARE YOU SERIOUS??

Even the name alone causes controversy in quiet, peaceful communities. There is enough evidence of that in this very forum!

What will the BNP give to the british public? More of the same rubbish politics (after all, whether far-right or far-left, a politician is a politician, and ultimately, will ensure that they're OK even if the country is falling apart...!), only with an added extra of bigotry, and violence as their supporters will see a positive vote as an excuse to lump innocent ethnic minorities, hard-working taxpaying british citizens with foreign backgrounds, and anyone with a slightly more liberal view than Enoch Powell, in with dissidents, criminals, illegal immigrants & scroungers.

The BNP is a bad idea, founded on a mythical notion that there is a pure-blooded British breed, and that the same breed is a noble creature. Sorry to burst the bubbles of the many pro-BNP supporters, but what makes Britain so great is the multicultural ethos that has been strengthening communities for many years! The very same multicultural & support that has been a thorn in the side of any racist element for years!!

The BNP is not an alternative. They are not knights in shining armour any more than the KKK. they are just a bunch of squalid individuals who can't stand the idea that they share streets and facilities with someone with a funny accent and darker skin.

typhoon32 wrote:
Colleen G I did say I'd leave the topic, I just wish to say this, you noticed I had spoke to others about my views, I asked to be left alone, obviously you did not notice this? I am taking in everybody's point of view now, but I still won't vote BNP Colleen G because I have a major fear that the UK would stop being a democratic nation. I'm not going to re start a fire, I hope you understand I'm not being rude to you, or trying to provoke you I'm just saying this. I don't want to be drawn into another argument as it does nobody any good. Thanks again

The Rooster wrote:
"Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal." NICK ERIKSEN, BNP London Assembly Candidate. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT REPRESENTING YOU Colleen G?

typhoon32 wrote:
'The point is, how on earth can we be any worse off than we are now?' I don't know, perhaps an influenza of Mad cows disease to replace swine flu lol I don't honestly know, it's gonna take a long while to get back to economic stability or should I say where we were at before the economic crisis as well as everything else that is wrong, ooopps I'm winching. More defense spending please Gordon Brown and more flights from the Royal Air force, Army Air Corps and Navy over Essex. thanks

Colleen G wrote:
I beg to differ. The country has gone to the dogs, crime is rife, the fear of crime paramount. Family values gone, moral ethics gone..greed is king and to hell with anyhting but money! Nah, not my idea of fun....Life was much better when we were broke, and did struggle for sugar, eggs, bread. Let alone cars and houses.

It's not the material things that count typhoon.

typhoon32 wrote:

Colleen G wrote: I beg to differ. The country has gone to the dogs, crime is rife, the fear of crime paramount. Family values gone, moral ethics gone..greed is king and to hell with anyhting but money! Nah, not my idea of fun....Life was much better when we were broke, and did struggle for sugar, eggs, bread. Let alone cars and houses. It's not the material things that count typhoon.

I guess you have seen things a lot better then. I agree with most of your points particularly on family values, you know these people that argue and fuss in front of their children and how families argue about such petty things its unreal. Families are about kindness one to the other not fighting and all this not goes on co-operation I think is the word. 21st century life is not good, people will sit and play on their games all day when there's things to be done and lifes to live. Money is what has been on people's mind for years, maz profit, fiddle with the money, get as much money as you can for yourself and don't worry about anybody or anything else. Its quite a selfish age really, I had to be miserable but I'm sure some may be able to agree with at least a few of my points. Travelling down a road for example you know the attitude 'I'm not letting you out' I'm in charge, but you know if you're just gonna be like that all the time, you're gonna become such a miserable person, you may not realize it but you hate yourself. Next time you think I'm not going to let him out, let the person out, and see if you don't feel better about yourself. Sorry I'm wondering off the subject but I hope you see my point.

trell wrote:
Here we go again... the merest whiff of a BNP-related story, and Colleen G comes out with a whole load of bulls41t about how wonderful the BNP is going to be... ...meanwhile, the rest of the poor, deluded pro-BNP mob keep trying to persuade anyone with a modicum of decency, common sense, and consideration for their friends & family, that the BNP are the ONLY alternative because the Tories & Nu-Labour were rubbish. Yes, the Tories & Nu-Labour are rubbish, but the BNP as the only alternative? ARE YOU SERIOUS?? Even the name alone causes controversy in quiet, peaceful communities. There is enough evidence of that in this very forum! What will the BNP give to the british public? More of the same rubbish politics (after all, whether far-right or far-left, a politician is a politician, and ultimately, will ensure that they're OK even if the country is falling apart...!), only with an added extra of bigotry, and violence as their supporters will see a positive vote as an excuse to lump innocent ethnic minorities, hard-working taxpaying british citizens with foreign backgrounds, and anyone with a slightly more liberal view than Enoch Powell, in with dissidents, criminals, illegal immigrants & scroungers. The BNP is a bad idea, founded on a mythical notion that there is a pure-blooded British breed, and that the same breed is a noble creature. Sorry to burst the bubbles of the many pro-BNP supporters, but what makes Britain so great is the multicultural ethos that has been strengthening communities for many years! The very same multicultural & support that has been a thorn in the side of any racist element for years!! The BNP is not an alternative. They are not knights in shining armour any more than the KKK. they are just a bunch of squalid individuals who can't stand the idea that they share streets and facilities with someone with a funny accent and darker skin.

TheJester wrote:
www.hopenothate.org. uk

lfchapman wrote:
*nazi

Julian Ware-Lane wrote:
What is disturbing is that the Echo website is carrying a 'vote BNP' advertisement. The BNP have a right to stand, but I would have hoped that this paper would not have promoted them.

Happy Hammer wrote:
The BNP are a vile racist organisation with links to the far right in Europe. Remind you of anything? Nazi's , the lot of them , those that died during the war defending this country and their like would turn in their graves that people vote for the BNP> Shame on you!

Happy Hammer wrote:
The BNP are a vile racist organisation with links to the far right in Europe. Remind you of anything? Nazi's , the lot of them , those that died during the war defending this country and their like would turn in their graves that people vote for the BNP> Shame on you!

rablenkov wrote:
Quoted from the BNP Constitution, 9th Edition, Section 1, Sub-section 2, Part a. (Capitalisation mine):

"The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic
character of the British people and is WHOLLY OPPOSED TO ANY FORM OF RACIAL INTEGRATION BETWEEN BRITISH AND NON-EUROPEAN PEOPLES. It is therefore committed
to stemming and reversing the tide of NON-WHITE IMMIGRATION and to restoring, by
legal changes, negotiation and consent, the OVERWHELMINGLY WHITE MAKEUP OF THE BRITISH POPULATION that existed in Britain prior to 1948."

And there are people here claiming that the BNP is not racist. I, for one, remain unconvinced.

Please don't let these people get even a sniff of political power.

rablenkov wrote:
Quoted from the BNP Constitution, 9th Edition, Section 1, Sub-section 2, Part a. (Capitalisation mine):

"The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic
character of the British people and is WHOLLY OPPOSED TO ANY FORM OF RACIAL INTEGRATION BETWEEN BRITISH AND NON-EUROPEAN PEOPLES. It is therefore committed
to stemming and reversing the tide of NON-WHITE IMMIGRATION and to restoring, by
legal changes, negotiation and consent, the OVERWHELMINGLY WHITE MAKEUP OF THE BRITISH POPULATION that existed in Britain prior to 1948."

And there are people here claiming that the BNP is not racist. I, for one, remain unconvinced.

Please don't let these people get even a sniff of political power.

rablenkov wrote:
Quoted from the BNP Constitution, 9th Edition, Section 1, Sub-section 2, Part a. (Capitalisation mine):

"The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic
character of the British people and is WHOLLY OPPOSED TO ANY FORM OF RACIAL INTEGRATION BETWEEN BRITISH AND NON-EUROPEAN PEOPLES. It is therefore committed
to stemming and reversing the tide of NON-WHITE IMMIGRATION and to restoring, by
legal changes, negotiation and consent, the OVERWHELMINGLY WHITE MAKEUP OF THE BRITISH POPULATION that existed in Britain prior to 1948."

And there are people here claiming that the BNP is not racist. I, for one, remain unconvinced.

Please don't let these people get even a sniff of political power.

charlie croker wrote:
I think you should research the 1948 Khaki election before stating what the people who fought the 1939-45 war wanted. (NHS, Cradle to Grave welfare system for a start). My grandfather fought in Commandos and was decorated for valour, in WW2 and absolutely hated British Movement, NF and BNP, he said they were the "biggest danger this country faced, a sleepwalk into fascism". (His words not mine). You have to remember that Britain entered the war to stop the spread of Fascism, that many Englishmen had already volunteered and fought the 1936 Spanish Civil war to prevent the spread of Fascism. The world had just suffered the great depression which led to the rise of Fascism, (ring any bells?) I thought the BNP members were still frightened by the publication of their membership list? Anyway having checked out the manifesto on the various subjects some make sense, all are very populist, the economics one shows a complete lack of grasp of basic economics though! Agriculture, how will you get crops picked with no immigration? At present foreign/EU workers do this back breaking labour? Transport, hmmm some populist comments there. (BTW Rail safety is at a record high, it's extremely safe, so how are you going to make it safer then?) Lots of the use of words like "should be", that is political weasel words (Basically we would like to but probably wont be able to), if BNP get into power these should read "Will be" if you seriously plan to meet your manifesto commitments. How does the party reconcile it's pledge on crime with the news that the head of the marketing arm (Arthur Kemp) of the BNP was linked to a murder? http://www.guardian. co.uk/politics/2009/ may/08/bnp-nick-grif fin-arthur-kemp

bob estes wrote:
I trust all my friends who work bloody hard and bring their children up to be respectful and decent citizens and who vote BNP....Decent law abiding hard working Countrymen....The BNP get my vote!!!

bob estes wrote:
I trust all my friends who work bloody hard and bring their children up to be respectful and decent citizens and who vote BNP....Decent law abiding hard working Countrymen....The BNP get my vote!!!

Soozie wrote:
And don't bother picking up on my spelling errors - I know I made them.

Colleen G wrote:

Soozie wrote: And don't bother picking up on my spelling errors - I know I made them.

The least of your problems.

Soozie wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

Soozie wrote: And don't bother picking up on my spelling errors - I know I made them.

The least of your problems.

LOL - if push came to shove you miserable old biddy -I'd beat you hands down.

Colleen G wrote:
Boozie hiccupped and graffiti'd... "Funny how those people for th emost part, pay taxes and contribute to society, you wan tehm chucked out when your beloved BNP gets in?" You bigots go from one complete extreme to the other! No one has ever complained about good, honest, hard working, taxpaying, people, of any race, colour or creed. They're not the ones causing the problems and never have been. So quit tarring them all with the same brush! We. The British, in Britain should have the right to punish, expel, imprison anyone who brings the country in to disrepute.. whether they are a honky on the council in Basildon, or rastus running the town hall in London makes no difference to me, BNP or anyone else! Your lack of base intellect is embarrassing, an doubt doubt you come up with clueless argument because that's all you know! Try listening for a change, you might actually learn something. And, since when has treating an idiot, like an idiot been a crime?

Winston Smith wrote:
Soozie, nations still trade with Denmark. Yet Denmark has some very strict anti-immigration laws. They have gone out of their way to protect their national identity and culture from mass immigration. I see no problem with also stopping immigration into Britain, protecting our national and cultural identity. I will not vote BNP, there are better alternatives. I will say this though, many of those in this discussion who are arguing most strongly against restrictions on immigration appear to be foreigners.

Colleen G wrote:
"Canada restricts the number of people it lets in every year" They still dont have any taste, obviously! * When I cam here, I had to prove (and they checked) that I had enough money to support myself for six months * Glad to see the back of you.

Winston Smith wrote:
Colleen, by 'came here', Soozie means came to Britain.

Winston Smith wrote:
Colleen, by 'came here', Soozie means came to Britain.

Soozie wrote:

Colleen G wrote: "Canada restricts the number of people it lets in every year" They still dont have any taste, obviously! * When I cam here, I had to prove (and they checked) that I had enough money to support myself for six months * Glad to see the back of you.

At least I have the option of leaving. Do you? No country in the world would take or want someone as emotionally bankrupt and blatantly ignorant as you.

Colleen G wrote:

Soozie wrote:

Colleen G wrote: "Canada restricts the number of people it lets in every year" They still dont have any taste, obviously! * When I cam here, I had to prove (and they checked) that I had enough money to support myself for six months * Glad to see the back of you.

At least I have the option of leaving. Do you? No country in the world would take or want someone as emotionally bankrupt and blatantly ignorant as you.

Your six months is up, time to hit the road granny...before you really start costing us more than you do already.

Soozie wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

Soozie wrote:

Colleen G wrote: "Canada restricts the number of people it lets in every year" They still dont have any taste, obviously! * When I cam here, I had to prove (and they checked) that I had enough money to support myself for six months * Glad to see the back of you.

At least I have the option of leaving. Do you? No country in the world would take or want someone as emotionally bankrupt and blatantly ignorant as you.

Your six months is up, time to hit the road granny...before you really start costing us more than you do already.

Bad day old bitter Colleen? No one come to visit you? Family can't stand the sight of you? Been sitting by your computer all day waiting to see if you can beat up on someone? Get a life. LOL, hardly a granny - don't lump everyone in your bracket old timer. Some of us still still have no wrinkles while you are creased up as an accordian. With a personality to boot. Six months? Hah! I'm not one of those immigrant workers you stick your snotty pointy witches nose down at. I'm probably subsiding (and heavily) your care home fees whilst you whelch off the state for those little extras. Get laid Colleen, might release some of that pent up bull you spout. On second thought, who in their right mind would bed an old sow like you. Not anyone, who has any self respect.

Colleen G wrote:

Soozie wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

Soozie wrote:

Colleen G wrote: "Canada restricts the number of people it lets in every year" They still dont have any taste, obviously! * When I cam here, I had to prove (and they checked) that I had enough money to support myself for six months * Glad to see the back of you.

At least I have the option of leaving. Do you? No country in the world would take or want someone as emotionally bankrupt and blatantly ignorant as you.

Your six months is up, time to hit the road granny...before you really start costing us more than you do already.

Bad day old bitter Colleen? No one come to visit you? Family can't stand the sight of you? Been sitting by your computer all day waiting to see if you can beat up on someone? Get a life. LOL, hardly a granny - don't lump everyone in your bracket old timer. Some of us still still have no wrinkles while you are creased up as an accordian. With a personality to boot. Six months? Hah! I'm not one of those immigrant workers you stick your snotty pointy witches nose down at. I'm probably subsiding (and heavily) your care home fees whilst you whelch off the state for those little extras. Get laid Colleen, might release some of that pent up bull you spout. On second thought, who in their right mind would bed an old sow like you. Not anyone, who has any self respect.

The voice of experience speaks!! dont take it so hard boozie. Have another bottle.

typhoon32 wrote:
I'm glad some people have seen the sense and not voting BNP. I guess Soozie and Colleen G don't get along too well on here???

typhoon32 wrote:
I'm glad some people have seen the sense and not voting BNP. I guess Soozie and Colleen G don't get along too well on here???

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
I'm glad some people have seen the sense and not voting BNP. I guess Soozie and Colleen G don't get along too well on here???

Not voting for BNP is not, seeing sense! I think we have established the error of voting for the present crop of politicians Lab/Lib/Con so who else would make sense, if not BNP, and why?

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
I'm glad some people have seen the sense and not voting BNP. I guess Soozie and Colleen G don't get along too well on here???

Not voting for BNP is not, seeing sense! I think we have established the error of voting for the present crop of politicians Lab/Lib/Con so who else would make sense, if not BNP, and why?

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: I'm glad some people have seen the sense and not voting BNP. I guess Soozie and Colleen G don't get along too well on here???

Soozie doesnt get on with anyone. Period. I spurned her advances. And hell hath no fury like an old battle axe scorned! Dont let it spoil your light entertainment here typhoon ;-)

typhoon32 wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
I'm glad some people have seen the sense and not voting BNP. I guess Soozie and Colleen G don't get along too well on here???

Not voting for BNP is not, seeing sense! I think we have established the error of voting for the present crop of politicians Lab/Lib/Con so who else would make sense, if not BNP, and why?

Mate, some of there policies are okay, I don't like their racist views however, and this outways the balance in my eyes.
It's not that 'oh i'm not concerned about mass immmigration' because I am, I know that our nation is at one of the highest levels of terrorism alerts since 2007 remaining at Severe because of radicalized people e.g. IRA, and Al-Quiada,
Are these people going to stop me being proud or flying the flag because I'm English or British... No because I choose not to be intimidated by anybody.
If necessary I will fight in our armed services because I don't tolerate terrorism in any way or form.

typhoon32 wrote:
al-Qaeda have not won anything!!!
They think religion calls for them to kill, but it honestly doesn't, it was the same in the Holy war and it is the same now, using religion as a cover.
The terror threat is real, you just visit the MI5 website if you think I'm using the nu liebour con as you call it.
The Hysteria is that if you do not combat terrorism as we are it will be an everyday occurrence in the UK, hence the war in Afghanistan our soldiers are dying for a real cause, they may not see it, but they are.
We owe a lot to our soldiers.
You mention clampdown I don't know where this clampdown is?

Soozie wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: I'm glad some people have seen the sense and not voting BNP. I guess Soozie and Colleen G don't get along too well on here???

Soozie doesnt get on with anyone. Period. I spurned her advances. And hell hath no fury like an old battle axe scorned! Dont let it spoil your light entertainment here typhoon ;-)

You are a dirty pig and a liar. I've reported you for your posts in the echo now. Not somethig I would normally do but you have crossed the line

Winston Smith wrote:
Of course the alert is high. The higher it is, the more power the government can use and the more restrictions on our freedom they can impose. Do you honestly believe that the government being able to snoop on YOUR phone calls, texts, emails and internet browsing will stop terrorists? Do you honestly believe that YOU having a compulsory ID card will stop terrorists? Do you honestly believe that YOU being on a DNA database will stop terrorists? Do you honestly believe that YOUR movements being filmed and recorded will stop terrorists? If you do then you are a fool. Yes, lets beat al-Qaeda... by refusing to live in fear, by refusing to change anything in the way British society lives by refusing to give up our hard won freedoms to this spineless government's claims of 'security', by refusing to submit to Nu-Liebour's creeping totalitarianism.

Winston Smith wrote:
Of course the alert is high. The higher it is, the more power the government can use and the more restrictions on our freedom they can impose.

Do you honestly believe that the government being able to snoop on YOUR phone calls, texts, emails and internet browsing will stop terrorists?

Do you honestly believe that YOU having a compulsory ID card will stop terrorists?

Do you honestly believe that YOU being on a DNA database will stop terrorists?

Do you honestly believe that YOUR movements being filmed and recorded will stop terrorists?

If you do then you are a fool.

Yes, lets beat al-Qaeda...

by refusing to live in fear,

by refusing to change anything in the way British society lives

by refusing to give up our hard won freedoms to this spineless government's claims of 'security',

by refusing to submit to Nu-Liebour's creeping totalitarianism.

typhoon32 wrote:

Winston Smith wrote:
Of course the alert is high. The higher it is, the more power the government can use and the more restrictions on our freedom they can impose.

Do you honestly believe that the government being able to snoop on YOUR phone calls, texts, emails and internet browsing will stop terrorists?

Do you honestly believe that YOU having a compulsory ID card will stop terrorists?

Do you honestly believe that YOU being on a DNA database will stop terrorists?

Do you honestly believe that YOUR movements being filmed and recorded will stop terrorists?

If you do then you are a fool.

Yes, lets beat al-Qaeda...

by refusing to live in fear,

by refusing to change anything in the way British society lives

by refusing to give up our hard won freedoms to this spineless government's claims of 'security',

by refusing to submit to Nu-Liebour's creeping totalitarianism.

Yes to all of them so I guess to your criteria I am a fool.
Whats wrong with you being snoopped on if you've nothing to hide.
I have nothing to hide so I don't mind, you must have otherwise you wouldn't mind either.
I don't think al-Qaeda care about New labour, they just want to inflict fear and panic debate and argument and finally world wide violence against anyone except for themselves.
Obviously you don't want to beat them because otherwise you'd have agreed to my comment on standing up and fighting against them.
I agree with not having to live in fear, society however needs to change I think.

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

I have news for you. Even we locked the jews, and others up during ww2. And refused entry to many refugees from the impending war in Europe. Not a lot of people know that.

Stop the UAF wrote:

Dave_smith79 wrote: I wonder what the BNP's policies are on Ghurka's seeking residents here? Not to mention decendants from other nationalities that put their own life on the line to fight for Britain. What will happen to the health service, considering most Doctors are not anglo-saxon. What would happen to our athletics and other sports teams? Unfortunately like others have said, the main party's have ignored the public the BNP know what to say. How long does ancestry have to go back to prove you are British?

Why not stop wondering and make an effort to find out. The BNP have supported the Gurkha's right to residence. The BNP accept limited immigration for essential workers. Team GB Olympic squad 2008 was overwhelmingly white. What is your point?

Dave_smith79 wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: London, During World War Two, He spoke to people on the street about the true meaning of Facisim I believe it was, and spoke for the Jews. He was beat up for this, don't know the exact year, he never spoke too much about it.

I have news for you. Even we locked the jews, and others up during ww2. And refused entry to many refugees from the impending war in Europe. Not a lot of people know that.

They where not locked up with the same intentions the Nazi's had. Or where the death camps the same as those set up on the Isle of man? Did you you know there was a all jewish commando unit that trained in Scotland and that carried out succesful mission against the Nazi's, which is strange considering the spin on history you are poviding. But then there where lots of nazi sympathisers that where willing to sell this counrty to the Germans.

Colleen G wrote:
" The only people inflicting fear and panic ARE Nu-Liebour. al-Qaeda don't scare me at all. Why should I be scared of a bunch of primitives living in caves in Afghanistan? They are not the ones removing my freedom, our own blo0dy government are doing it for them"

Your ignorance is astounding. As a direct result of the infestation known as al qaeda and terroism, the world suffered 911/7-7..thousands killed right on our doorstep...hundreds of other serious threats thwarted globally, thousands of simpletons wanting to join up with the global loons, many collecting information and material to make their own bombs. thousands of incidents throughout the world we did not stop, mainly in countries that have no real security in order to preempt attacks.

These fruit cakes will be happy to kill one person..their ideal would be to destroy the planet, including themselves. You cant fight that with diplomacy, no security or a limp wrist. You might feel safe locked away in your bedroom all day. The rest of the world has to live and go outside to do so. That's why we need security. That's why we need to stamp on home grown treachery from ingrates like you.

Our duty in a democracy in this situation is to help the authorities, not hinder them. They are all we have between peace and oblivion.

Winston Smith wrote:

Colleen G wrote:
" The only people inflicting fear and panic ARE Nu-Liebour. al-Qaeda don't scare me at all. Why should I be scared of a bunch of primitives living in caves in Afghanistan? They are not the ones removing my freedom, our own blo0dy government are doing it for them"

Your ignorance is astounding. As a direct result of the infestation known as al qaeda and terroism, the world suffered 911/7-7..thousands killed right on our doorstep...hundreds of other serious threats thwarted globally, thousands of simpletons wanting to join up with the global loons, many collecting information and material to make their own bombs. thousands of incidents throughout the world we did not stop, mainly in countries that have no real security in order to preempt attacks.

These fruit cakes will be happy to kill one person..their ideal would be to destroy the planet, including themselves. You cant fight that with diplomacy, no security or a limp wrist. You might feel safe locked away in your bedroom all day. The rest of the world has to live and go outside to do so. That's why we need security. That's why we need to stamp on home grown treachery from ingrates like you.

Our duty in a democracy in this situation is to help the authorities, not hinder them. They are all we have between peace and oblivion.

Ok then 'Colleen', and you Typhoon32, put your money where your mouths are, what are your names, ages, addresses, home phone numbers, mobile phone numbers, email addresses, National Insurance numbers, drivers licence numbers?

You say have nothing to hide, and so nothing to fear. So prove it.

Colleen G wrote:
We have lots to hide from stupid people, who ask stupid questions. Much as you might think otherwise, you are a nothing and as such have no reason to have our private information. Your analogy is as warped as your logic! The authorities have every reason to require any information to protect us. Most of us happily give that support, whether it's asked for or not. Nothing to hide. Nothing to fear. You protesteth far too much, and that raises grave suspicion in itself.

Winston Smith wrote:
Oh and by the way, no British jews were locked up during WW2. People with German ancestry were moved to internment camps on the Isle of Man. Some of those may also have been jewish. But the reason for them being moved to the internment camps was not that they were jewish, it was that they were of German ancestry. So Colleen, your perverted version of history is incorrect. Not surprising really. 'Colleen', that's an Irish name isn't it? Do you live in Oak Road, Crays Hill? That would explain a lot of why you are so desperate to tear down all that makes Britain the country it is.

Winston Smith wrote:

Colleen G wrote:
" The only people inflicting fear and panic ARE Nu-Liebour. al-Qaeda don't scare me at all. Why should I be scared of a bunch of primitives living in caves in Afghanistan? They are not the ones removing my freedom, our own blo0dy government are doing it for them"

Your ignorance is astounding. As a direct result of the infestation known as al qaeda and terroism, the world suffered 911/7-7..thousands killed right on our doorstep...hundreds of other serious threats thwarted globally, thousands of simpletons wanting to join up with the global loons, many collecting information and material to make their own bombs. thousands of incidents throughout the world we did not stop, mainly in countries that have no real security in order to preempt attacks.

These fruit cakes will be happy to kill one person..their ideal would be to destroy the planet, including themselves. You cant fight that with diplomacy, no security or a limp wrist. You might feel safe locked away in your bedroom all day. The rest of the world has to live and go outside to do so. That's why we need security. That's why we need to stamp on home grown treachery from ingrates like you.

Our duty in a democracy in this situation is to help the authorities, not hinder them. They are all we have between peace and oblivion.

Ok then 'Colleen', and you Typhoon32, put your money where your mouths are, what are your names, ages, addresses, home phone numbers, mobile phone numbers, email addresses, National Insurance numbers, drivers licence numbers?

You say have nothing to hide, and so nothing to fear. So prove it.

Colleen G wrote:

Winston Smith wrote:
Oh and by the way, no British jews were locked up during WW2. People with German ancestry were moved to internment camps on the Isle of Man. Some of those may also have been jewish. But the reason for them being moved to the internment camps was not that they were jewish, it was that they were of German ancestry. So Colleen, your perverted version of history is incorrect. Not surprising really. 'Colleen', that's an Irish name isn't it? Do you live in Oak Road, Crays Hill? That would explain a lot of why you are so desperate to tear down all that makes Britain the country it is.

Your history is clueless just like the rest of your miserable life... you and that old soak Boozie go well together..your constant stalking and stirring up trouble, just because you're ignorant of facts is pitiful.

I'll be happy to see Britain take it's perch as the greatest country in the world once again. Hopefully soon.

You're a cry baby, why dont you go and cry to Sir like your soulmate, see if they'll fight your miserable battles for you.

typhoon32 wrote:

Winston Smith wrote:

Colleen G wrote:
" The only people inflicting fear and panic ARE Nu-Liebour. al-Qaeda don't scare me at all. Why should I be scared of a bunch of primitives living in caves in Afghanistan? They are not the ones removing my freedom, our own blo0dy government are doing it for them"

Your ignorance is astounding. As a direct result of the infestation known as al qaeda and terroism, the world suffered 911/7-7..thousands killed right on our doorstep...hundreds of other serious threats thwarted globally, thousands of simpletons wanting to join up with the global loons, many collecting information and material to make their own bombs. thousands of incidents throughout the world we did not stop, mainly in countries that have no real security in order to preempt attacks.

These fruit cakes will be happy to kill one person..their ideal would be to destroy the planet, including themselves. You cant fight that with diplomacy, no security or a limp wrist. You might feel safe locked away in your bedroom all day. The rest of the world has to live and go outside to do so. That's why we need security. That's why we need to stamp on home grown treachery from ingrates like you.

Our duty in a democracy in this situation is to help the authorities, not hinder them. They are all we have between peace and oblivion.

Ok then 'Colleen', and you Typhoon32, put your money where your mouths are, what are your names, ages, addresses, home phone numbers, mobile phone numbers, email addresses, National Insurance numbers, drivers licence numbers?

You say have nothing to hide, and so nothing to fear. So prove it.

I'm not a new labor comrade.
Just because I think that it is okay for the security services to snoop on me cause I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I'm a new labour comrade does it?

typhoon32 wrote:
Oh and Winston tell me where Al-Qaeda have won will you, seen as you supposedly think that they have won in the UK?

typhoon32 wrote:
Winston, why are you so concerned about being snooped on by British security services though? You really think that the government have done that to let Al-Qaeda win, why then are we fighting in Afghanistan if you think that's why we did it, and not because they wanted to be able to stop all terrorism going on in the UK.

typhoon32 wrote:
No I am British born and bred actually.
They don't literally monitor everyone, but making the amount of fuss you have about being watched, I'm surprised that the SAS aren't knocking on your front door right now

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
Winston, why are you so concerned about being snooped on by British security services though? You really think that the government have done that to let Al-Qaeda win, why then are we fighting in Afghanistan if you think that's why we did it, and not because they wanted to be able to stop all terrorism going on in the UK.

He doesnt like being caught speeding, or any other forms of CCTV...he thinks it's up to him to decide how he behaves and to hell with the rest of society. He doesnt like doing as he is told. He doesnt like being watched in case he gets caught doing things he shouldnt be doing.

No moral high ground for him. Complete self interest.

Winston Smith wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: Winston, why are you so concerned about being snooped on by British security services though? You really think that the government have done that to let Al-Qaeda win, why then are we fighting in Afghanistan if you think that's why we did it, and not because they wanted to be able to stop all terrorism going on in the UK.

He doesnt like being caught speeding, or any other forms of CCTV...he thinks it's up to him to decide how he behaves and to hell with the rest of society. He doesnt like doing as he is told. He doesnt like being watched in case he gets caught doing things he shouldnt be doing. No moral high ground for him. Complete self interest.

I have never committed a crime. You have 'Colleen'. I have held a clean driving licence since 1980. You haven't 'Colleen'. And yes, it IS up to me to decide how I behave so long as my behaviour does not break the law or infringe on the rights of others. No-one, not you, and certainly not this corrupt, lying Nu-Liebour government, has the right to tell me how to behave. The thing is 'Colleen', you want the power to tell people what they should and shouldn't think and do, don't you? You want to control people don't you? And that is why you will vote BNP. Because that is what the BNP is about. It is about social inadequates wanting to take it out on society. And all your posts in this discussion have been a perfect example of why I will not vote for the BNP.

typhoon32 wrote:
oh here we go conforming again is it.
Oh so you are calling it a Stalinist government are you, well if it was we wouldn't be able to talk like this right now would we I think I have proved my point without going further.
Labour is not Stalinist.
And if MI5 want to watch me because of this I won't complain because I don't mind being snooped upon as I have nothing to hide, you obviously have in your repeating your wish not to be snooped, and even if you don't want to you have no choice anyway because you won't know, and even if you did you cann't go telling MI5 and MI6 oh I don't wish to be snooped upon what are they going to say 'we will snoop on who we like when we feel it is necessary'.

Colleen G wrote:

Winston Smith wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: Winston, why are you so concerned about being snooped on by British security services though? You really think that the government have done that to let Al-Qaeda win, why then are we fighting in Afghanistan if you think that's why we did it, and not because they wanted to be able to stop all terrorism going on in the UK.

He doesnt like being caught speeding, or any other forms of CCTV...he thinks it's up to him to decide how he behaves and to hell with the rest of society. He doesnt like doing as he is told. He doesnt like being watched in case he gets caught doing things he shouldnt be doing. No moral high ground for him. Complete self interest.

I have never committed a crime. You have 'Colleen'. I have held a clean driving licence since 1980. You haven't 'Colleen'. And yes, it IS up to me to decide how I behave so long as my behaviour does not break the law or infringe on the rights of others. No-one, not you, and certainly not this corrupt, lying Nu-Liebour government, has the right to tell me how to behave. The thing is 'Colleen', you want the power to tell people what they should and shouldn't think and do, don't you? You want to control people don't you? And that is why you will vote BNP. Because that is what the BNP is about. It is about social inadequates wanting to take it out on society. And all your posts in this discussion have been a perfect example of why I will not vote for the BNP.

Society needs rules. You WILL obey those rules whether you like it or not. No doubt your driving is as lunatic as your ranting, which is why society needs to tell people like you what to do. You are a danger to all of us, not just to yourself. If you choose to live with us in a society you WILL comply.

Winston Smith wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: oh here we go conforming again is it. Oh so you are calling it a Stalinist government are you, well if it was we wouldn't be able to talk like this right now would we I think I have proved my point without going further. Labour is not Stalinist. And if MI5 want to watch me because of this I won't complain because I don't mind being snooped upon as I have nothing to hide, you obviously have in your repeating your wish not to be snooped, and even if you don't want to you have no choice anyway because you won't know, and even if you did you cann't go telling MI5 and MI6 oh I don't wish to be snooped upon what are they going to say 'we will snoop on who we like when we feel it is necessary'.

I suggest you look up totalitarianism. It is a waste of time discussing this with you. You have no comprehension of what 'freedom' means. You are a product of Nu-Liebour. You believe everything they say.

typhoon32 wrote:
Winston there's no need to launch personal attacks on people, you're evidently not quite the conservative I was thinking of.

Winston Smith wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

Winston Smith wrote:

Colleen G wrote:

typhoon32 wrote: Winston, why are you so concerned about being snooped on by British security services though? You really think that the government have done that to let Al-Qaeda win, why then are we fighting in Afghanistan if you think that's why we did it, and not because they wanted to be able to stop all terrorism going on in the UK.

He doesnt like being caught speeding, or any other forms of CCTV...he thinks it's up to him to decide how he behaves and to hell with the rest of society. He doesnt like doing as he is told. He doesnt like being watched in case he gets caught doing things he shouldnt be doing. No moral high ground for him. Complete self interest.

I have never committed a crime. You have 'Colleen'. I have held a clean driving licence since 1980. You haven't 'Colleen'. And yes, it IS up to me to decide how I behave so long as my behaviour does not break the law or infringe on the rights of others. No-one, not you, and certainly not this corrupt, lying Nu-Liebour government, has the right to tell me how to behave. The thing is 'Colleen', you want the power to tell people what they should and shouldn't think and do, don't you? You want to control people don't you? And that is why you will vote BNP. Because that is what the BNP is about. It is about social inadequates wanting to take it out on society. And all your posts in this discussion have been a perfect example of why I will not vote for the BNP.

Society needs rules. You WILL obey those rules whether you like it or not. No doubt your driving is as lunatic as your ranting, which is why society needs to tell people like you what to do. You are a danger to all of us, not just to yourself. If you choose to live with us in a society you WILL comply.

I do obey the rules. That is why I don't have a criminal record but you do. That is why my drivers licence is, and always has been, clean. Unlike yours. You are definitely sounding more and more like those whining inadequates who we see supporting the BNP. Unemployed, uneducated, envious, sad little men with severe cases of pen1s envy.

typhoon32 wrote:
No I am British born and bred actually.
They don't literally monitor everyone, but making the amount of fuss you have about being watched, I'm surprised that the SAS aren't knocking on your front door right now

typhoon32 wrote:
See there is proof, no doubt the BNP have brought this man to kill opponents, yes? well if he is he's already failed as have the BNP if this is your way of doing things. I guess some of you still think the BNP is still safe yes? Regardless of the fact they draft in: 1) Jews to cover their racist views which they are known to have even in their agenda. 2) Bring in a far right activist who appears to be a murder/hitman or else a planning people's murders 3) Use the Gurkha story to gain votes. 4) Has links to the KKK and other far right activist groups Criticize again will you? Well I'd already made up my mind and this pins more evidence to my past explanations if you may.

Winston Smith wrote:

typhoon32 wrote:
No I am British born and bred actually.
They don't literally monitor everyone, but making the amount of fuss you have about being watched, I'm surprised that the SAS aren't knocking on your front door right now

This is an interesting reply. You see, an Englishman, Welshman, Scotsman or Irishman would have said so, they would have been unlikely to say 'British'. Generally migrants tend to say they are 'British'. So which are you? English, Scots, Welsh or Northern Irish?

Dave_smith79 wrote:

Stop the UAF wrote:

Dave_smith79 wrote: I wonder what the BNP's policies are on Ghurka's seeking residents here? Not to mention decendants from other nationalities that put their own life on the line to fight for Britain. What will happen to the health service, considering most Doctors are not anglo-saxon. What would happen to our athletics and other sports teams? Unfortunately like others have said, the main party's have ignored the public the BNP know what to say. How long does ancestry have to go back to prove you are British?

Why not stop wondering and make an effort to find out. The BNP have supported the Gurkha's right to residence. The BNP accept limited immigration for essential workers. Team GB Olympic squad 2008 was overwhelmingly white. What is your point?

I have tried to read their official stance but could not find it on their site, although I admit it wasn't along search. Anyway I was getting at, would these welcomed foreign nationals,I am guessing people with Irish surnames included have the same rights as so called 'true britons', or will the only be granted provisional residence?

sharry wrote:
The BNP stands for BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY I am sick and tired of MY rights and the rights of our younger british generation being taken away. I am sick and tired that I can't fly the flag in case I offend someone. Well I'm offended. I'm offended my that my grandchildren are not allowed to learn about their own culture, traditions and heritage. I am offended that british children are not allowed to have nativity plays. I'm offended that other British traditional holidays are not recognised because of fear of offending the un british among us. I am offended that foreign people who have been in the country five minutes get housed over our own people who have been on waiting lists for years. I will be voting BNP from this moment on. No one else in power cares what happens to our country, to our people to our culture and traditions.